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Research Notes
Map Group KENTISH 1823
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Kentish 1823
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Great Map of Hampshire, scale about 5 inches to 1 mile, projected series in
many sheets, by Nathaniel Lipscomb Kentish, Kingsgate Street, Winchester, about
1823.
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Only one sheet in this series is known(?), sheet 36 south of Winchester; it is
believed this is a trial sheet for a project which never found subscriptions to
support its costs, the scale of the project, about 1 to 13000, about 5 inches to
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INTRODUCTION |
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MAP FEATURES |
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HAMPSHIRE CHRONICLE |
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BACKGROUND MATERIAL |
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REFERENCES |
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ITEMS in the Collection |
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INTRODUCTION |
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ONE SHEET
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Only one sheet of this map series is in the HMCMS Map
Collection; no one else seems to have any other sheet, or even to
have heard much of Nathaniel Kentish! It is suggested that the
single sheet is the only sheet ever produced; that this was a
trial sheet, perhaps to show to potential subscribers in a
prospectus for the whole project, which never happened.
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The title on the map includes the phrase 'part of' which would
not usually be found on a sheet from a multisheet series; the
usage supports the idea that this is a trial sheet.
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The area covered by the sheet is just south of Winchester:
part of St Cross, Winchester; Chilcomb; Compton, Compton and
Shawford; Otterbourne; Twyford; Owslebury; etc.
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The scale of the map is almost 5 inches to 1 mile. This is
unreasonably large for the period to which the project belongs;
it is not surprising that the project appears to have failed to
find support.
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Sheet Corners
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The four corners of Kentish's sheet were located as well as
possible in coordinates of the National Grid (using OS 2.5 inch
Pathfinder sheet 1264, Winchester South and Chandler's Ford,
SU42/52).
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top left SU44122887
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top right SU54012894
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bottom left SU44292100
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bottom right SU53932102
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For simplicity take this as putting Kentish's sheet centred at
SU49092496 say SU491250, width 9.77Km = 6.07miles ie 6 miles,
height 7.90Km = 4.91miles ie 5 miles (being naive about errors!)
The locating of the corners is not accurate enough to make
deductions about the projection, or orientation of the sheet in
relation to the National Grid.
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Using this sheet as base a grid of sheets was constructed over
an outline sketch map of Hampshire, including areas now in
Dorset. This gives us an idea of Kentish's overall plan, his
'index sheet' for the project (image file KEN1NDX.gif which has
sheet 36 picked out bold, pixel reference 155,145,188,170). Two
suppositions may be made from this index sheet:-
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Supposition: Kentish laid out his sheets to capture the edges
of the county at the bottom left at his desired scale of about 5
inches to 1 mile; dubious. An alternative plan would have been to
ensure that Winchester was centred in a sheet; on the actual plan
Winchester is at the very bottom of the above the trial sheet,
with parts of the outskirts on the trial sheet.
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Supposition: Kentish labelled sheets from top to bottom, left
to right, ie:-
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The trial sheet can be MADE TO COME OUT as number 36, to
confirm the uncertain reading of the smudged sheet number.
Numbering in other ways cannot make this sheet come out to 36 or
anything near; nor to the 16 mentioned in newspaper notices.
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There is the wild thought that sheets were numbered out of
spatial sequence, but in the sequence of intended surveying; this
seems pretty unlikely.
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Supposition: there would have been about 64 sheets in the
complete Great Map of Hampshire. Queries (?) are shown in the
sheet diagram where there could have been more sheets; and, do
notice that the county boundary used here is very inexact.
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LITHOGRAPHY
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Lithography was not the usual way of printing maps at the
period.
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The process was invented by Aloys Senefelder, in Bavaria,
about 1798. It was kept a secret until patented in England, 1801,
and was only well established as a printing method by about 1825.
Kentish appears to have been ahead of his time.
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(There was a lithographic printer in Winchester by 1825.)
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Some coments about lithography have been received from Ian
Mumford who has not seen the actual map, via Peter Collier
(Portsmouth University). The size of the litho stone, at least
30x25inches, is large but not exceptional. The Admiralty were
experimenting with stones 3x3feet about this time. The map is
probably printed by from two stones; one for the hill hachures
and the other for the line detail. The map might well have been
printed in London.
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MAP FEATURES |
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Printed at the top is:-
PART OF KENTISH'S GREAT MAP OF
HAMPSHIRE.
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map maker
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Printed at the bottom is:-
Drawn from Actual survey & Published by
& for Nat. Lipscomb Kentish, Winchester.
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scale
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The map has no scale line. An estimate of the scale was made
by measuring a length of road delimited by milestones. 2 miles =
247.5mm, giving a scale about:-
1 to 13000
assuming a modern mile, about:-
5 inches to 1 mile
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watermark
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The paper is Whatman paper with date 1823, watermark:-
J WHATMAN / TURKEY MILL / 1823
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HAMPSHIRE |
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1 February 1819, p.4 |
MR. NAT. LIPSCOMB KENTISH, son of the late Mr. Kentish, Surgeon,
of Winchester, respectfully informs his Friends and the Public,
he has taken a House in Winchester, where he purposes carrying on
the Profession of LAND TITHES and TIMBER SURVEYOR, CIVIL ENGINEER
and ESTATE AGENT, in all its branches; and that it will ever be
his first care to be found worthy the support of those Gentlemen,
&c. who may be pleased to honour him with their commands.
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Mr. K. begs to refer those who may desire further information
respecting his qualifications, to Mr. Crabtree of Wokingham,
Berks. in whose employ he has lived a number of years.
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17 July 1820, p.1 |
WINCHESTER
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MR. NAT. LIPSCOMB KENTISH, of Winchester, respectfully acquaints
his Friends and the Public, that he has constantly on register,
for Sale, and to Let, a great variety of Town and Country
Residences, Farms, Manors, and Estates; also applications for
almost every description of Landed Property; and that the
greatest publicity he is enabled to give to the wishes of his
employers, by means of an Agent in the first situation in London,
united with his own exertions, generally supersedes the necessity
of advertising, and seldom fails of suiting them; and that, with
describing to the world the names of Estates, or the persons
disposing of them, where secrecy is desirable.
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Money advanced on mortgage; and any amount ready to invest in the
purchase of freehold property of inviting character.
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As Mr. Kentish makes no charge whatever for his personal efforts,
or those of his London Agent, to let, sell, purchase, or take
houses or estates, unless successful, except in case of actual
negociation, he is obliged to request all letters may be sent
free of postage, and they will receive immediate attention.
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Land, Tithes, & Timber,
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Mapped, Surveyed, & Valued.
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Levels taken to any extent; and prospectuses drawn up of
projected alterations in roads to avoid hills, &c. shewing
advantages, saving in labour, &c. with estimates of the expenses;
also canals, ornamental ponds, and sheets of water, designed and
executed.
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Old Maps corrected, reduced, or enlarged.
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22 April 1822 |
MR. NAT. LIPSCOMB KENTISH, OF WINCHESTER, Civil Engineer & Estate
Agent,
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HAVING invariably found that his modes of conducting Agency
Business only required to be known to be approved, respectfully
announces that ...
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Land, Tithes, and Timber, mapped, surveyed, and valued. Levels
taken to any extent; and Prospectuses drawn up of projected
Alterations in Roads, to avoid hills, &c. shewing the advantages,
saving in labour, &c. &c. with estimates of the expenses; also
Canals, Ornamental Fish Ponds, and Sheets of Water, designed and
executed. Old Maps corrected, reduced, or enlarged.
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13 May 1822 p.1 |
is a general advertisement for:-
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MR. NAT. LIPSCOMB KENTISH,
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OF WINCHESTER,
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LAND SURVEYOR,
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Civil Engineer, and Estate Agent, ...
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21 October 1822 |
KENTISH'S HAMPSHIRE
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Prospectuses may be had gratis, at any of the Booksellers in the
County; Mr. Cary's, St. James's Street, London; and at Mr.
Kentish's, Kingsgate Street, Winchester; of A MAP OF HAMPSHIRE,
to be made upon an entirely new principle, quite original, and
upon a larger scale than any Map of the same extent ever before
published; accompanied by a complete Topographical Description of
the County, compiled from the best and latest Authorities; aided
by the resident Clergy and Gentry, and by official information
from the Clerk of the Peace, Treasurer and other County Officers,
according to permission to apply to the proper sources for the
same, granted by his Grace the LORD LIEUTENANT, and the HIGH
SHERIFF; sanctioned also by the approbation of many of the
Nobility, Gentry, and Clergy; and by that of the Right Rev. the
LORD BISHOP OF WINCHESTER, and the Magistrates and Landed
Proprietors of Hampshire in particular.
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SUBSCRIBERS
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... [list] ...
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Mr. N. Lipscomb Kentish returns his grateful acknowledgement to
those Noblemen and Gentlemen who have honoured him with their
names ...
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... in particular he begs the early attention of land owners and
residents within 5 miles of Winchester, his survey of that
district (No. 16, on the Index Map), being already commenced; and
he respectfully solicits their permission for himself and
assistants, to walk over such ground as may happen to be
necessary for the purposes of his Survey, pledging himself to do
as little injury as possible.
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25 November 1822 |
KENTISH'S HAMPSHIRE
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PROSPECTUSES of this Work may be had, gratis, at the Offices of
this Paper. and at the principal Booksellers in the county; also
at Mr. Carey's, St. James's-street, London, and at Mr. KENTISH'S,
Kingsgate-street, Winchester: a perusal of which is earnestly
solicited, from which it will be obvious, that considerable
advantage may be lost to Gentlemen of Landed Property, in the
neighbourhood of Winchester in particular, if they neglect to
give the subject early consideration; as the Conditions, as well
as the Terms stated in the Prospetus, will not be departed from.
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The loan of any Plan, made from measurement of any Parish or
Estate, within five or six miles of Winchester, will now be most
serviceable to Mr. K in the prosecution of his Survey, and will
be most thankfully accepted. The List of Subscribers, at presnt
exceeding an Hundred in number, and comprising many of the first
Names in the County (and out of it), will be published in the
first paper in January.
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Notice the emphasis on the Winchester area, which was
presumably being surveyed about this time.
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9 December 1822 |
KENTISH'S HAMPSHIRE
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PROSPECTUSES of this Work may be had gratis at the Offices of
this Paper, and at the principal Booksellers in the county; also
at Mr. Carey's, St. James's-street, London; and at Mr. Kentish's,
Kingsgate-street, Winchester, a perusal of which is earnestly
solicited, from which it will be obvious, that considerable
advantage may be lost to Gentlemen of Landed Property, in the
neighbourhood of Winchester in particular, if they neglect to
give the subject consideration before the expiration of the
present month, as the Conditions, as well as the Terms, stated in
the Prospectus, will not be departed from.
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The loan of any Plan, made from measurement, of an Parish or
Estate, within five or six miles of Winchester, will now be most
serviceable to Mr. K. in the prosecution of his Survey, and will
be most thankfully accepted.
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The list of Subscribers, at present exceeding an Hundred in
number, and comprising many of the first names in the County (and
out of it), will be published in the first paper in January.
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There is a slight feel of desperation in the wording of this
advertisement.
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6 January 1823 |
KENTISH'S HAMPSHIRE
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To the Nobility, Gentry, Clergy, Land Proprietors and Occupiers,
and Residents of the County of Hants.
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My Lords and Gentlemen,
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THE occasion on which I have the honour of addressing you
requiring a general application from me, I have recourse to the
present as the most ready means of making it, and the only one by
which it is possible to avoid omissions, which it would be
painful to me to be guilty of.
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In prosecuting my Survey of this County, as there is not an acre
in it which it may not be necessary, or at least desirable, for
me to visit. I beg respectfully to solicit of each Owner and
Occupier of Land a perusal of my PROSPECTUS (which may be had
gratis of the principal Booksellers in Hampshire, of Mr. Cary,
St. James's -street, London, or at my house), which will explain
the purpose for which I now crave permission for myself and
Assistants to walk over such parts of Estates as may happen to be
necessary, in order to make an accurate and complete MAP OF
HAMPSHIRE, upon so large a scale as to admit of Plans of Farms
and Manors being introduced upon it for their owners; and I am
the more encouraged to make this request from the high patronage
of the great Civil and Ecclesiastical Authorities of the County,
with which my undertaking is honoured; from the sanction which I
have further received from the Nobility, Gentry, and Clergy,
whose names appear in my present List of Subscribers; and still
more from the handsome letters I have received (above an hundred
in number) from the greatest Landed proprietors in the County,
granting me full permission to go over all parts of their
Estates, and further tendering me their services in aid of my
proceedings; to each of whom - to those who have not yet given me
their names, but wait, as many have informed they do, to see the
first Sheet of the Map, yet have politely expressed their good
wishes for the success of my undertaking, I beg to express my
warmest acknowledgements, as well as to those more particularly
whose names are subjoined, who have in the present early stage of
my proceedings honoured me with their support, and to whom, and
to his Grace the Duke of WELLINGTON, and the Right Rev. the Lord
Bishop of WINCHESTER in particular, I beg to express my grateful
thanks, and shall ever acknowledge that I am chiefly indebted for
my success, should the Work prove so creditable to me as they are
pleased to anticipate, or so useful to you and to the Public as
it is my hope that it will be, and will be my ambition to make
it. In different parts of Hampshire, as there may probably be
many names entered as Subscribers which I have not yet received,
I trust Gentlemen will be assured that such alone is the cause of
any omissions which I have to regret; and I beg them to accept my
thanks for the favour of their support; and out of the numerous
letters I have received with valuable information from the
Clergy, and offers of Plans made from Survey, and other services
from Gentlemen of every rank, being fearful that I may
inadvertently, through the press of business, in some instances,
have omitted to answer them, I appeal to the urbanity which
occasioned their polite communications, to pardon my remissness,
and to impute it to the real cause which I have stated, and beg
them to accept my apologies, with my best thanks for their
kindness.
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Authentic Plans, already made from Survey, of Parishes or Estates
in any part of Hampshire, being extremely useful to me, I shall
be grateful for the loan of any such with which I may be
favoured, and of which the greatest care shall be taken; and any
assistance that may be rendered me in [understanding] the correct
Boundaries of Parishes; and the communication of information not
generally known, respecting any part of Hampshire, will oblige
and receive attention.
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I cannot conclude without again and more specifically thanking
the Clergy, for their numerous and polite answers to my Circular
Letter, and for the valuable information already offered me
towards the Topography of the County: and I beg in particular to
thank those Gentlemen who have had the consideration to send
their letters to me free of expense; and take the liberty of
requesting others to consider, that though the postage of one
letter is not a great object to pay, the number which I daily
receive makes it a serious consideration to an individual.
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As it will be obvious to every one that without great
encouragement it would be impossible for me to accomplish so
great and expensive an undertaking, I respectfully beg leave to
mention that the patronage and support of Gentlemen who approve
of my design, will, if conferred upon me in the present early
stage of my proceedings, be doubly valuable.
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I have the honour to be,
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MY LORDS AND GENTLEMEN,
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With profound respect,
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Your obliged and very humble servant,
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NAT. LIPSCOMB KENTISH.
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Winchester, Jan. 1, 1823.
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Subscribers at present known.
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His grace the Duke of Wellington
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His Grace the Duke of Buckingham
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The High Sheriff of Hampshire
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The Right Rev. the Lord Bishop of Winchester
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The Right Rev. the Lord Bishop of Hereford
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The Right Rev. the Warden and Fellows of Winchester College
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The Right Hon. the Earl of Malmesbury
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The Right Hon. the Earl of Northesk
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The Right Hon. Lord Viscount Gage
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The Right Hon. Lord Viscount Palmerston
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The Right Hon. William Sturges Bourne, M P
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Sir Thomas Baring, Bart M P
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Sir Lowry Cole, Bart
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Sir Thomas Freeman Heathcote, Bart
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Sir Charles Ogle, Bart
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Sir Henry Joseph Tichborne, Bart
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Sir George Thomas Staunton, Bart
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John Fleming, Esq M P
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W Chamberlayne, Esq M P
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The Very Rev the Dean of Winchester
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The Worshipful the Mayor of Winchester
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The Literary Institution of the Isle of Wight
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Rev Thomas Atwood
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Rev E Beckwith, jun
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Rev George Chard
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Rev R Durnford
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Rev Cornelius Green
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Rev John Harwood
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Rev Jos Hollis
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Rev Henry Hopkins
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Rev - Hemus
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Rev J H Jacob
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Rev Wm Lipscomb
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Rev C Lipscomb
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Rev Wm Lee
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Rev Francis North
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Rev Charles Richards
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Rev F W Swanton
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Rev Thomas Smith
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Rev Aubrey John Veck
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Rev Charles Walters
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Rev T Westcombe
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Rev J O Zillwood
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Adams, Geo esq
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Adnams, Mr
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Alchin, W T esq
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Atcheson, N esq
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Barnes, Wm esq
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Bower, T W esq
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Bown, Mr
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Burt, Mr
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Beaufoy, J H esq
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Barnes, George, esq
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Bowles, Charles, esq
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Bedford, Mrs
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Compton, H C esq
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Cole, Mrs
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Caiger, F esq
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Chard, Geo esq MD
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Cole, Mr F
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Coles, Mr Wm
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Corfe, - esq
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Coxe, R B esq
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Coxe, Mrs E
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Crabtree, Richard, esq
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Dewell, Mrs
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Dunn, John, esq
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Ede, James, esq
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Faithfull, Wm esq
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Foote, Admiral
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Forder, Mr G
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Green, Peter, esq
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Greetham, Charles, esq
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Gunner, Wm esq
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Hatch, Mr J R
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Hawker, Lieut Col
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Hawkes, Mr F
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Hornstead, H esq
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Hollis, George, esq
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Hoper, M esq
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Kentish, E esq M D
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Knight, Messrs H and R
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Knight, Thomas, esq
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Lampard, James esq
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Lewis, Mr J T
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Lipscomb, Wm esq
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Lipscomb, Mr John
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Lyford, G K esq
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Mackinnon, W A esq
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Miller, - esq
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Nevill, Wm esq
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Nicholas, Wm esq
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Nicholls, Samuel, esq
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Osborn, Mr
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Padwick, Wm jun esq
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Passingcombe, J esq
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Portal, John esq
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Phillips, Mr
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Purvis, George esq
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Pritchard, Capt R N
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Preston, John esq
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Ralfe, James, esq
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Raphael, John, esq
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Ravens, Miss
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Rogers, Mr W
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Royle, Mr William
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Sheddon, R esq
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Simonds, Wm esq
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Slatter, Miss
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Trimmer, Mr
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Turner, N esq
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Upham, Mr
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Walter, Henry, esq
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Warden, J esq
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Waterworth, T L esq
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Waterworth, Mr C
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Whicher, Mr John
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Wickham, Wm esq
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Willis, Mr
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Winter, Barnard, esq
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Woodham, Thos esq
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Woods, Henry, esq
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Wooldridge, Chas esq
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Wilson, F C esq
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Notice the Lipscombs in the list, clergymen and others; and
one Kentish, a doctor.
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17 March 1823 p.1 |
KENTISH'S HAMPSHIRE
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To the Nobility, Gentry, Clergy, Land Proprietors and Occupiers,
and particularly to the Resident Clergy & Gentry of the County of
Hants
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MY LORDS AND GENTLEMEN
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IN compiling a Topographical Description of this County, as I
must be chiefly dependent on you for correct local information, I
respectfully crave your consideration of my Prospectus, and of
this self evident fact, that if one person in each parish would
but take the trouble of furnishing the particulars of it, by
answers to the subjoined queries, such assistance would enable me
to produce a most pleasing and valuable Work, which would be the
more interesting in proportion as its accuracy might be relied
on.
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I have the pleasure to acknowledge the receipt of many valuable
answers from the Resident Clergy to my Circular Letter, and beg
those gentlemen who have favoured me with them, to accept my best
thanks. I also beg to present my sincere thanks to those numerous
gentlemen (Laymen) who have given the subject their attention,
and have been pleased to furnish me with a description of their
own Seats, Manors, Parishes, &c.; and I have the high
gratification to state, that I have not only received the most
flattering marks of approval of my plan from my Patrons and
Subscribers generally, but find most gentlemen residing in the
county, especially those who have property in it, take an
interest in seeing their residence and neighbourhood correctly
described, so much so as to convince me, that if this desire to
promote the usefulness and accuracy of the Work I am compiling,
should not become general, and if it is not aided by the
contribution of authentic local information from those gentlemen
whose long residence in and acquaintance with the various parts
of the county, enable them to furnish it, and point them out as
the most natural and legitimate source of it, it will not be to
want of urbanity or inclination in the county to assist in the
production of a Work, the design for which the highest
authorities have done me the honour to commend, and to pronounce
that, if executed according to it, it will be one of
unprecedented local interest and utility; but to my inability to
point out, with sufficient force and clearness, the nature and
merits of the case, and want of means to excite attention to it;
wherefore I respectfully solicit of my subscribers and friends to
assist me with their interest, in furtherance of my design, as
they already pleased to do with their support.
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It has hitherto been my greatest misfortune to find that mistake
very prevalent (even with gentlemen who have themselves made the
observation, that if the Clergy would generally reply to my
Circular Letter, their assistance would be most valuable), of
making exceptions in favour of their own parishes, by stating
that there is nothing of importance to communicate respecting
them; or nothing more than I am acquainted with: may I be
permitted to reply to this not very powerful argument, that where
this really happens to be the case it is rather a reason why I
should more hope to receive their answers, because they would be
given at little trouble to themselves, although they would
prevent me much trouble, and which is still worse, uncertainty;
and to ask, if at an election the voters were to observe
generally with respect to the candidate whose interest they were
in, that though they sincerely wished him success, as a single
vote would be of little importance, each were to think it could
not be worth while to vote at all, what would become of the
candidate with such supporters?
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I respectfully solicit of the Resident Clergy, who have not yet
returned answers to my Circular Letter, to be so obliging as to
answer it; the earlier, the greater the favour will be esteemed;
and beg of all gentlemen residing on their own estates, to
consider this request particularly made to them, that they would
be pleased to furnish me with answers to the following queries
respecting the parishes they reside in, and thus kindly
contribute original and authentic information towards a complete
TOPOGRAPHICAL DESCRIPTION OF HAMPSHIRE:-
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1. Etymology of the parish, and of any hamlet, manor, river,
hill, or thing, of a separate name within it; and whether any and
what manor is co-extensive with the parish, or what manors are
comprised within it?
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2. Chief productions?
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3. Soil, minerals, &c?
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4. Antiquities, charters, local customs, &c.?
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5. Church, description of? to whom dedicated? by whom built? and
when? - remarkable monuments, &c. within it?
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6. Chapels, of what denomination, &c.?
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7. Charities, when and by whom endowed?
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8. Manufactures?
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9. Fairs, markets, &c.?
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10. Public establishments?
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11. Gentlemen's seats?
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12. Other information not comprised in answers to the foregoing
queries? any historical fact, or tradition relating to the
parish, or anything in it? or any circumstances of interest, or
occurence worth recording, that should appear under the head of
---- ?
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The great Map to which this Topography will be an Appendix, is in
a state of considerable forwardness; but the length and severity
of the winter having impeded all out of doors operations, so much
beyond what it was possible to calculate upon, I trust no apology
will be required by a lenient public for the delay in the
publication of the first Sheet of the map beyond the 1st of May,
the time proposed; for anxious as I must be for its publication,
being still more anxious that it should deserve your approbation
when published, and having the strongest reasons to heighten my
anxiety to make it as perfect as it is possible to be made, I
shall, acting on the advice of my friends and subscribers
generally, not hurry it, but endeavour so much the more to render
it worthy of the distinguished patronage with which I am
supported, and by which I hope to be further honoured when it
does appear before the public.
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If the reader has not seen my former Letter in this Paper of the
6th of January, I would respectfully crave his perusal of it; and
with feelings of unfeigned gratitude to the gentlemen of the
county in general for the great encouragement afforded me in the
prosecution of the arduous work I am engaged in (by the loan of
authentic surveys; by the communication of local information; and
by general permission to go over such grounds as may happen to be
necessary for the purpose of my survey), and to those gentlemen
in particular comprised in that most respectable lst of names
which I have the gratification to call subscribers to, and
promoters of it,
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I have the honour to remain,
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My Lords and Gentlemen,
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Your obliged and very humble servant,
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NAT. LIPSCOMB KENTISH.
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Winchester, March.15, 1823.
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16 June 1823 p.1 |
HAMPSHIRE AND SOUTH OF ENGLAND LAND AGENCY OFFICE
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MR. NAT LIPSCOMB KENTISH, of Winchester, Land, Tithes, and Timber
Surveyor, Civil Engineer, and Estate Agent, respectfully
announces that his opportunities of facilitating the wishes of
persons desirous of Selling or Letting Landed Property in
HAMPSHIRE, are so materially assisted by the local knowledge
occasioned him by the very particular Survey and Topography he is
engaged in of that county, as to have decided him on establishing
in this central situation, the most complete 'Land Agency Office
for the South of England,' at which Landed Business of every
description will be conducted in the most liberal terms.
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8 September 1823 p.1 |
KENTISH'S HAMPSHIRE
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MR. N LIPSCOMB KENTISH has the honour to announce to the
Proprietors of Lands, and Residents in the neighbourhood of
Lyndhurst, and between East Wellow and Brockenhurst, and in the
neighbourhood of Botley, and between Bishop's Stoke and
Titchfield, and in the towns of Stockbridge and Romsey, and
intermediate neighbourhood, that the first sheet of his MAP of
HAMPSHIRE being in the hands of the Engraver [He] is now engaged
in the Survey of the district immediately surrounding Southampton
([No. th]e Index Map, and that he is about to pr[oceed with]
several Assistants, on the [Survey ] districts, numbered, upon
the Index Map [ ] and 15 respectively, comprising the [ ] above
named; and he [respectfully ] gentlemen whose property may [ in
the] said districts, that after the Survey of either of them is
commenced, his terms for surveying Estates will be increased, as
mentioned in the Prospectus of the Work; and that the conditions,
as well as the terms therein stated, will not be departed from.
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Mr Kentish trusts he has in no instance omitted to express his
thanks to those numerous gentlemen who have kindly proferred
their services: and he respectfully solicits the loan of
authentic Plans, and communications of Topographical Information,
which assistance will be gratefully accepted.
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Mr Kentish, and Assistants, while engaged in the Survey of
Southampton and its environs, have Apartments at No.97
High-street. near the Quay, where communications may be
addressed, and local information will be thankfully received; and
Mr Kentish will be happy to speak with any gentleman, who may do
him the favour to call upon him, on the subject of the local Work
he is engaged in.
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[asterisk] An Index Map may be seen, and Prospectuses of the
above work had, gratis, at the principal Booksellers in the
County; at Mr CARY's, St. James's-street, London; or at Mr
KENTISH'S, Winchester; an EARLY PERUSAL OF WHICH may prove of
considerable importance to persons of Landed Property in
Hampshire; but at present to those in the district above
mentioned in particular.
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27 December 1824 p.1 |
MAP OF HAMPSHIRE
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MR. N. LIPSCOMB KENTISH respectfully announces to the Nobility,
Clergy, Gentry, and Residents of the county of Hants, subscribers
to his late intended Great Map, and others, that having too late
found his gigantic undertaking to be impracticable, but being
still resolved on making and publishing an accurate and handsome
Map of the County, on a more moderate scale, he has formed an
arrangement with the respectable firm of GREENWOOD, PRINGLE, and
Co. of Regent-street, Pallmall, London, whwo are publishing a
Series of beautiful County Maps, and that, in conjunction with
them, he will speedily make, and publish by subscription, an
elegantly engraved MAP of HAMPSHIRE, including the Isle of Wight,
on a Scale of One inch to a mile, in Six sheets, price Four
Guineas.
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And in behalf of himself and his colleagues, Mr Kentish
respectfully solicits the subscribers to his late intended Great
Map, and the gentlemen and inhabitants of the county in general,
to support the present undertaking.
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The fact of Messrs. Greenwood, Pringle, and Co. having already
published Maps of sixteen Counties (specimens of which may be
seen at Mr Kentish's office, Winchester,) renders it unecessary
to speak of the style and execution of the work. All that the
proprietors therefore pledge themselves is, that no county being
more richly diversified by towns and villages, parks, woods,
downs, forests, and by the sea, it shall be inferior to none; and
they confidently hope, in sparing neither pains nor expense, to
make it a favourite specimen. It will be embellished by a View of
Winchester Cathedral.
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BACKGROUND |
MATERIAL |
Kentish Letter |
There is a letter from Nathaniel Kentish, surveyor, Kingsgate
Street, Winchester, among the papers of the Cadlands estate,
deposited in Hampshire Record Office; call number 3m60/9.
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The letter is labelled:-
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Winchester
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November 13th. 1823
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and addressed to:-
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Robt. Drummond Esqr.
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Sir
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I yesterday embraced the opportunity afforded me by a few leisure
hours at Southampton to cross the River at Cadlands in the hope
of finding you at home and of having the honor of personally
presenting you my thanks for your great kindness shewn to my
Assistant Mr. Kemp, and also with interest to speak to you upon
the subject of a Survey of your Estate, which I understood from
him, you entertained some thoughts of employing me to make, and
that you had been pleased to express a wish to see me upon.
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Mr. Mundy obliged me in your absence with a sight of your very
beautiful Plans, & not doubting that they were correct at the
time they were drawn, I am of opinion they might (or copies of
them might) be examined and corrected so as to make a perfect
Plan of the Estate as it now is without Surveying the whole - but
at very modest terms at which, previously to the publication of
that part of my County Map in which your charming Estate will be
emphasised, a new complete and accurate Plan upon a large Scale
from actual Survey, of the whole Property as it now lies (and a
reduced copy of the same coloured to represent Arable, Pasture,
Wood, &c. according to its true state upon your copy of my County
Map without any additional expense whatever) may be obtained,
perhaps it would be attended with but little more expense to have
the whole now properly executed, than to have the present Plans
corrected, the alteration of which must be very considerable.
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I purpose doing myself the pleasure of crossing from Southampton
on Wednesday or Thursday next, if either of those days should
suit your convenience to see me, and if any other day would be
more agreeable to you, perhaps you will do me the honor of a line
to make your own appointment
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I beg to subscribe myself, Sir
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Your obliged & very humble [ ]
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Nat Lipscomb Kentish
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There are notes written upon the letter later:-
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Novr. 20[th]. 1823
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Agreed with Mr Kentish that he should make a Map of the Estate at
the rate of Sixpence [per Acre]
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and:-
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Re making a Map of Estate agreed to by A.R.D 1823
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Pigot 1823-24, 1828 |
Pigot's Directory for Hampshire, 1823-24 lists:-
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Kentish, Nathl. L. author of the great Map of Hants.
Kingsgate-st.
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in Winchester. 1828 has the same entry.
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UBR 1784 |
The Universal British Directory 1784, Hampshire, has:-
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Kentish, Nathaniel, Surgeon, Apothecary, and Man midwife,
Penthouse
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this is NLK's father.
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Tithe Award |
Nathaniel Kentish was the surveyor for the Rogate area, West
Sussex, for its enclosure act, 1820; the award being made in
1825. The commissioner for the award was firstly Charles Osborn,
of a family of West Meon, Hampshire, and later his son. (note from John Chapman, University of Portsmouth)
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Greenwood |
Kentish was used as a surveyor by C and J Greenwood, 1825-26.
His name is included, in quite a small font, in the map's
title:-
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MAP / OF / the COUNTY of / SOUTHAMPTON / From an Actual Survey /
Made in the Years 1825 & 1826. / BY C. & J. GREENWOOD, / and N.
L. KENTISH.
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(His name is not included on the other 1826 edition of the
map.)
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Australia |
There is a letter in a series of papers in the British Library
which is listed as being from Nathaniel Lipscomb Kentish,
Australian Journalist. This is AddMS 40879 f.231 in the Ripon
Papers, three volumes entitled 'Applications for Colonial
Appointments, 1832' containing that and other correspondence of
Lord Ripon (at that time Lord Gooderich) as Secretary for War and
Colonies. 40879 is vol.2 of the 3; names H-M.
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The letter reads:-
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Parramatta
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New South Wales
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January 23rd. 1832
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My Lord
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I do myself the honour to forward to you a Pamphlet, not
presuming to think it worthy of your perusal for any merit of its
own; but only as bearing upon the interests of the Colony, on
which account I flatter myself your Lordship may not be
displeased at the opportunity of giving it your consideration.
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My History of this and the [ ita] Colonies now in the Prefs, I do
cherish the hope, may answer the end I propose to myself in
publishing it, that of inducing emigration hither, to the great
advantage of the Emigrants themselves, and of these five
Colonies, as well as in some degree to that of the United
Kingdom, by withdrawing a portion of her Redundant population - I
shall do myself the further honour of forwarding a copy to your
Lordship, by the first homeward bound ship from hence after its
publication.
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I have the honour to be my Lord Your Lordships humble and Obed
Ser
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Nathaniel Kentish
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addressed to:-
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The Right Honble
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Lord Visct. Goderick
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[ ]
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Principal Secretary of State for the Colonies
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The coincidence of name strongly links this manuscript to the
map maker of these notes (though the internal evidence of the
letter does not include the Lipscomb used by the British Library
indexer). However, it tells us little about him except that he
may have emigrated to Australia, and become a journalist.
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(Informed of letter by Tony Campbell, British Library, Map
Library / transcript kindly done by Mike Montagu-Smith, Steeple
Ashton, Wiltshire.)
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Land Surveyor |
Kentish is listed in:-
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Bendall, Sarah: : Dictionary of
Land Surveyors and Local Cartographers of Great Britain and
Ireland, 1580-1850: British Library
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This gives no more than already discovered from local sources,
but extra data from Sarah Bendall personally is:-
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Kentish mapped the estate of Admiral Sir Charles Ogle, Bart., in
parishes of Martyr Worthy, Kings Wothy and Easton, Hampshire,
1823.
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The map was sold at auction by Christies, London, 8 July 1988.
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He mapped a town in Hampshire with C and J Greenwood; map in the
Bodleian.
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REFERENCES |
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Norgate, Martin: 2000: Notes from Kentish's Map of Hampshire: Hampshire CC
Museums Service:: ISBN 1 85975 380 9:: includes a facsimile of the one extant
sheet of the map |
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ITEMS |
in HMCMS Map Collection (scanned item in bold)
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HMCMS:FA1999.33 -- map
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